Guest38354 = Father Frost
<Guest38354>quick question: Chapter3 took place three years after the civilwar, right? And HollowCity takes place three years after that? Makes six years since the civilwar and the dispatchment of the C3s, right?
<Nn>I ... guess?
<Ben>yeah 2 three year time skips
<Nn>that means that everyone is older
<Nn>Panda's characters would be like... 19
* Ben gives his character a white moustache
<Nn>and stein would be 106
<Nn>Lilith died of old age
<Fivel>only the organic half that is left
<Ben>but lilith is in the past fighting dinosaurs
<Guest38354>I'm just messin around with some ideas on how the society changed and evolved since the civilwar and how the clones handle their new freedom in society
<Nn>I think most of them are with the police I assume
<Ben>clones are always fun
<Ben>the dumbest clone is with the police
<Guest38354>Yeah, I thought so too: Most clones would join police or private security so they don't need to decide stuff for themselves
<Ben>not the dumbest in the literal sense, that's selaphial
<Nn>about society, we were mostly thinking that the city has grown massively
<Ben>yeah they are grown for following orders
<Guest38354>On the other hand I thought: There must be clones with some longing for freedom, since they're very diverse to some degree.
<Nn>there's probably a lot of super-rich people who have awesome lives aided by clone servants and riding flying cars etc. and then lots of people living miserable
<Nn>well, I think the government keeps track of them closely
<Guest38354>And most of them would fail at finding a place in society and become unemployed and criminal
<Ben>I am sure there are some trying awkwardly to be normal people
<Nn>haha
<Guest38354>Also the gap between normal citizens and the "new" clone citizens. I don't see them get along nicely
<Nn>using tatoo remover to cover their barcodes
<Nn>racism!
<Ben>haha. they just have to buy scarves!
<Guest38354>yeah, some classic racist stuff like "No clones will be served" in diners and stuff
<Nn>yeah
<Ben>NO PARENTS NO SERVICE
<Nn>Non-Clone seats in the metro
<Nn>haha ben
<Fivel>haha
<Guest38354>haha!
<Fivel>if half the police consists of clones, how come there would be places like that?
<Guest38354>A strong "Natural human" party in the senate or something
<Nn>they could still be seen as lower-class
<Ben>well they don't make the laws, just enforce it
<Ben>(lawwwws)
<Guest38354>LAAAW!
<Ben>are clones old enough to vote? haha
<Nn>http://static2.dmcdn.net/static/video/371/346/24643173:jpeg_preview_large.jpg
<Fivel>ben: they are still not 18
<Nn>WHAT, votes for CLONES? what are you, DISGUSTING?
<Ben>http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b133/reaper06/betrayedthelaw2.jpg
<Nn>next thing, robots can vote
* Ben is shocked
<Guest38354>Well, the regular citizens were used to treat C3s like shit on the one hand and fear them as lawenforcers for a fascist regime on the other hand.
<Guest38354>So there won't be much love for them, I guess
<Ben>yeah they do kind of have justification as clones killed their families
<Guest38354>Clones are registered as such in their ID, no?
<Nn>yeah
<Nn>They probably have an obvious clone-ID
<Guest38354>So if their trying to obscure their clony nature they would have to buy a fake ID
<Ben>I'm sure they have extensive records of their id/DNA/service record
<Ben>MR. FAKENAME NOTCLONE
<Guest38354>like that
<Ben>AGE: NOT FIVE
<Guest38354>By no means
<Ben>DATE OF BIRTH: YES I HAVE ONE OF THOSE
<Guest38354>common job interview question: Name some stuff that happened TEN Years ago. No? Nothing? Well, off you go
<Ben>:D
<Aigis>:D
<Ben>poor clones
<Guest38354>yeah, like five year old vietnam veterans with tattoed numbers and no place to go
<Ben>yup!
<Guest38354>The city is run by a democratic voted senate or a mayor or what?
<Ben>by a sinister AI... maybe
<Guest38354>Ah Heavenstuff, right
<Guest38354>That worked out just fine for other dystopies I guess
<Nn>haha
<Ben>I guess the parliament would still be around
<Nn>I guess the city is run by 1 party
<Nn>and every 4 years you can vote for this 1 party
<Guest38354>Also: I know that was no issue in the past. But wouldn't there be an interesting conflict between common humans and any supernatural or, lets say, enhanced citizens (like undead-cyborg-type fellas)?
<Nn>hm
<Guest38354>Like the supers bossin around the regulars and the simple humans distrust and hate them for that
<Ben>I doubt most people would be comfortable around my character in any circumstances, haha
<Nn>maybe
<Guest38354>Or at least some sense of tension
<Nn>I was thinking the police probably dislikes them
<Nn>http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa472/laststarfarer/transload/naan.jpg
<Guest38354>since we're heading for a more darker, cyberpunkier approach
<Ben>ahhahaha ein
<Guest38354>haha
<Nn>brb looking for food
<Ben>well my character is some creepy cult leader. and the guy who makes the clones and sells the government their weapons
<Guest38354>Yeah like there are certain areas, clubs and likes, were you only get entrance to when you're, lets say, a vampire or a mage or a cyborg or stuff like that
<Ben>where they do... the monster mash!
<Guest38354>The popstars all are like syperhipp superhumans, elves and spectrals and the regular youths try to be like them and mod their bodies with prosthetics and stuff
<Ben>hmmm, nice idea
<Ben>kids going around with vulcan ears
<Guest38354>Yeah, just whe nyou thin kabout it: In our world, popstars, moviestars and such, represent a unreachable ideal of sex and asthetics. Imagine the deal when they are ACTUAL superhumans
<Guest38354>there would be ruckus in the streets
<Ben>and watching enhanced cyborg athletics on tv
<Guest38354>yeah, there would be a constant dispute about normal vs. supernatural in every layer of culture and society
<Ben>thats a nice theme. in a setting with all sorts of weirdos and super people from other dimensions
<Guest38354>At least the white people vs black people issue would be over since there is another group to hate
<Ben>yay!
<Guest38354>always look on the nice side
<Guest38354>of racism
<Ben>everyone happily united hand in hand
<Ben>...against those filthy clones and zombies
<Guest38354>yeah, lets show 'em!
<Guest38354>Just think about vampires: They're undead, immortal, supersexy by nature and superhuman when it comes to strength and speed. And HollowCity is a environment where they can live in the open and just do what they do. they will be despised and hated and adored by every breathing human there is
<Guest38354>Don't tell me that wouldn't lead to racial and social tensions
<Guest38354>And most of them are filthy rich and date the most wanted billionaire undead cyborg playboy in the city
<Ben>hahah
<Ben>plus one group feeds on the other!
<Guest38354>exactly
<Guest38354>when your boss is a vampire and you know he just sees you as lifestock....
<Ben>then its time to change job... but everywhere else hired cheap clones already
<Guest38354>the corporate shrink is a psychic and mindreader and you're supposed to trust her?!
<Ben>: D
<Guest38354>Your landlord is a 12ft lizard who breathes fire every time you're late with the rent
<Guest38354>life sucks when you're normal in HollowCity
<Ben>haha :D
<Ben>poor humanity
<Aigis>I love humans!
<Guest38354>Me too
<Guest38354>great story materia
<Ben>quite so, haha
<Ben>hmm. inspiring me to start battling
<Guest38354>If I enter a character he definetely will be a human
<Ben>even though the intro comic sucked away my comic making skills
<Guest38354>you guys doing a collab intro comic?
<Ben>yeah, just a short one but it has taken a looong time, haha
<Ben>should be up today hopefully
<Guest38354>AWESOME!!
<Guest38354>Can't wait!
<Guest38354>Yeah i would do a human character...
<Guest38354>who is a f***** racist
<Guest38354>go figure
* Ben will fight him with lots of clones
<Guest38354>Dude, we really need to battle some time. Waitin for that shot for years now!
<Ben>its long overdue
<Ben>I still wonder if I should submit my clone cop as a second character
<Guest38354>What clone cop?
<Ben>my apb character >_> haha
<Ben>who is a defective c3
<Guest38354>I see
<Fivel>do it ben :D
<Guest38354>I'm plotting something with a clone cop atm, haha
<Ben>: D
<Ben>oho!
* Nn should finish and submit his robot cops
<Guest38354>reminds me: What with the C4s? Them still like bosses by nature?
<Nn>within the clones, yes
<Nn>there is a C4 in the intro comi
<Guest38354>We should make that the official uniform for HC
<Nn>*comic
<Guest38354>nothing beats ballerinas when it comes to fighting crime in crime alley
<Ben>haha :D
<Ben>http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r585/BenCoombs/blah.jpg thats the uniform type I have been drawing
<Ben>spoiler spoiler
<Guest38354>oh fuuuck is that awesome....
<Ben>haha thanks :D
* Ben won't say how long it took
<Guest38354>also yay for dictators/idols wearin jeans and bein topless
<Guest38354>C3 armor is used like riotgear?
<Ben>yeah I guess the armoured clones would be used in more intense situations
<Ben>the other guys for parking tickets and minor police brutality
<Guest38354>That tough-lookin Cop has got a name?
<Ben>glenister!
<Guest38354>nice
<Guest38354>man, those punk kids never learn
<Ben>they must have the law beaten into them
<Guest38354>yeah, with shock batons!
<Guest38354>love them